Amanchu! Advance Coverage Cancelled

It’s Euphonium 2 all over again.

Amanchu Advance Poster

It’s happening again. It’s the same reason I avoided covering the 2nd season of Euphonium. I get the message doods. I’ll stop covering the 2nd season of Amanchu! I’ll review it when it’s done instead. All this panicking over events in the manga drained all motivation out of me to continue talking about it. I already deal with enough pessimism being a wrestling fan so doing so while talking about a show where fans are consistently dreading a yuri ship sinking is no fun at all.

So yeah. OG’s weekly Amanchu! Advance coverage has been cancelled.

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63 Responses to Amanchu! Advance Coverage Cancelled

  1. Hildemarie says:

    reads last ch.
    KISAMA

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  2. ThePhenomenalSecond says:

    As a fellow wrestling fan, I agree we deal with enough pessimism as is.

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  3. Mamiina says:

    What really bothers me is that the more things like these keep happening the more people will feel entitled to use the idiotic term “yuri-bait” as a replacement for “subtext” when it’s clearly obvious that they are two separate concepts. It took us years in order to get rid (at least a little) of that “shoujo-ai” crap, we didn’t really need this new misconception to spread out among us westerners. And I am not saying that this specific show won’t fit into the “yuri-bait” range, just that I am already sick to see the term “yuri-bait” applied to almost every show where two girls with a strong connection simply do not come out.

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    • OG-Man says:

      I feel ya. Getting sick and tired of the “yuri-bait” crap. All it does is lead to more arguing instead of “Oh. Subtext again. Not so bad”. As far as labeling EVERY SINGLE SHOW WITHOUT AN ON-SCREEN KISS OR CONFESSION/CONFIRMATION as “bait”, I stopped caring about those rants long ago. They got super annoying.

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      • Mamiina says:

        After several years spent on a crusade against the use of “shoujo-ai” I don’t think I have any energy left for a second one. I’ll tell you what, if after all this time people haven’t still been able to understand once and for all the right concept behind the word “YURI”, well, it’s their problem. I am going to savour my YURI shows be they explicit or subtext and enjoy them both equally. And if I’ll ever run into a bait show (which as far as I know at present it only happened once, maybe twice). I’ll just drop it without making a fuss about it. The world of Japanese media is just full of yuri if you know where to look.

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    • Okami おかみ Yamino やみの says:

      We need a way to separate GxG love and romance from sex and erotism and all that crap and Shoujo-AI was doing just that. The death of that term is a very sad thing.

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      • Mamiina says:

        No it isn’t, because that term was a total, absolute fabrication made-up by westerners who could not understand that every kind of romantic connection between two girls, be it spiritual-only or also carnal, falls under the concept of “Yuri”. Did you ever read Yuri-Hime or any other yuri magazine? You can find any kind of stories there, from the most romantic to the dirties, and their range goes from the most subtle subtext to explicit physical love. And all of them are considered Yuri by fans. So, if people here like to use a derogatory term (shoujo-ai) that in its original language means “love for younger girls” in order to define a romantic relationship between two women and use the one and only true word who defines the whole genre (Yuri) as a substitute for “lesbian porn sex” well, be my guest. In my honest opionion it’s just a nonsense and that word (“shouho-ai” ) should burn in hell. If people really needed a classification it was just enough to separate “Yuri” from “NSFW Yuri”. That’s the only existing difference.

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      • Red says:

        Why do we need this?

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      • Okami おかみ Yamino やみの says:

        Romantic and erotic relationship are two completely different things those are two different genres with two completely different aims, one is about love, feelings and emotions where other is… well about sex, and it is necessary to separate them. What is the most derogatory is to label those two genres together when they are completely different things. Term itself isn’t as important as it is to separate those two very different genres from each other. There is no even a single reason to label those two genres together other then some people thinking that love and erotic are the same thing witch they aren’t, if anything they are the opposite of each other.

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    • cirno9fan says:

      Amanchu, if the anime follows the manga, would 100% be what “yuri bait” would refer to. It would be the totally correct usage of the term. It’s used wrongly very often I agree, but if Amanchu follows its source, then this would be a time where that term has much significance. I can only think of one other show that the term could be used. And no it’s not Eupho(that was, at most, “ship bait”. The yuri stayed on, and never left. It was a slow burning romance, and the movie makes it waaaaaaaaay clearer what was going on). It’s an anime I doubt anyone here has seen, as I’m pretty sure it’s still subless XD

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      • Okami おかみ Yamino やみの says:

        cirno9fan That kind of “yuri bait” where girls end up with guys doesen’t make any sense as creators would draw in people who like something only to trow it away and pretended it never happened and make people they drawned in with a bait hate it. And unless they are sadists that simply enjoy destroying peoples dreams I don’t see how anyone would benefit from it. The term would make more sense if it was referring to anime that don’t really have any romance but they trow in just some suggestive content to also get people who like “yuri” on board.

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      • cirno9fan says:

        But it is what happens sometimes, so whether it makes sense to yourself, it is a thing. The term gets used way too much for things that don’t deserve it, but it does have reasons to be used, and this show will most certainly be one if it follows the manga.

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      • Mamiina says:

        If that will be the case of course we will consider it yuri-bait and as far as I know it would be the second case of a yuri ship suddenly ninja’ed by a totally unforseen het love interest that I am aware of. (the first one being Euphonium and that one is still arguable). Because I’ve never considered yuri bait at all any cases where the potential male LIs were already there from the beginning. In shows like Tamako Market, Hanasaku Iroha and many others the yuri ship was already a gamble from the beginning: you could choose to believe in it or not, but if the ship later sank you weren’t in the position to complain because you already knew that the risk was there. And when there is no het LIs there is no yuri-bait at all. Just subtext at the very least but I would argue that there are many so-called “subtext” yuri anime who are more romantic and where the feelings are way more explicit than many other so called “explicit” yuri shows. Take Nadie and Ellis from ElCaza for example. Who would you consider more a “true” couple? Them, albeit they never ever kissed once or, let’s say, Mamori and Mirei from Valkyrie Drive?! As for me I’d choose the first two without any hesitation.

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      • cirno9fan says:

        I fully agree. Tamako Market was definitely not yuri-bait, I never once thought that Midori would have a chance. I just hoped they would have dealt with her feelings instead of brushing it all under the rug in the movie. Hanasaku Iroha never once seemed like a yuri show outside a fanservice episode where they meta joked about it.

        I also don’t see Euphonium as that either because Kumiko never got with any guy, and Reina did not either. Kasumi just got with a different girl than most were thinking she would.

        I also agree that “subtext” can be more romantic than “explicit” yuri.

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  4. Nick says:

    Just finished reading your comments in the ep 2 review, damn kinda wish I didn’t now. If that’s true and the ship sinks I’ll be pretty heartbroken, but I won’t flip my shit and make a huge deal out of it. Like you said though, the writers might do something different, so while it’s probably a long shot, there still is a slight chance.

    Sorry to see you drop coverage of this show, it’s so peaceful and chill but I understand your reason behind the decision and I respect you for that.

    As for me, I’ll continue watching as I’m enjoying it, but with this new bit of info I hope it doesn’t change my outlook on this show too much.

    At least there are still other yuri shows coming out later this year, so if this one doesn’t pan out there are others to fill that void. Although I really hope this does pan out. Pikari and Teko are such an adorable couple and I love seeing them interact with each other. They’re so in love and it just warms my heart when they have moments alone together.

    I’m rambling now with this comment, sorry.

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    • OG-Man says:

      Feel the same way you do. It’s just that some have already thrown in the towel and complain about “yuri-bait” that I went “I don’t have time to deal with this week after week” like I almost did had I decided to cover Euphonium 2.

      Same here. Let’s enjoy the show on our own because it’s still chill and fun to watch. Let’s hope the anime writers don’t mess things up.

      Exactly. The writers MUST HAVE noticed this. Again hope for the best.

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      • Cannibal says:

        The writer did notice it, thats why she was thorough in destroying it. Absolutely no way will she let the anime writers go through with the ship when she tried so hard to wreck it.

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  5. mihomaho says:

    It’s not pessimism though, the fans really just give up seeing their ships sinking. Unfortunately my yuri google is just the regular cheap one, it can’t blur the clear facts i don’t want to see well.

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  6. Fipse says:

    In the manga it becomes clear the (female) author is clearly a bit homophobic so…yeah, responses are not exactly optimistic.

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    • Ren says:

      I agree. The same thing happened with Aria where the story is about “very strong friendships between women” but of course in the end one of them gets married to a man. After that, it has become pretty clear to me that the author never intended to write yuri (I will not debate whether her works are intentionally baity or not), thus why I swore to never get into Amanchu. Seems like I made the right decision. I understand that fans can feel free to enjoy whatever they want, but to me, I’m done with Amano Kozue’s works.

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      • OG-Man says:

        The engagement ring I presume?

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      • Ren says:

        It was stated by Akari towards the end of the manga that Alicia is retiring to take up that other post at the Gondala Association and to get married, right?

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      • Fipse says:

        It is worth in Amanchu since it is made clear that there can be no romantic love between girls. It has a very homophobic feel to it. Now maybe this view will change slowly over time in the manga but I kinda doubt it.

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  7. Dominik Cerny says:

    I did read the comments and I´ll be watching the show, but my hopes for the good end for aou nation has been bombarded, but hope dies last, unofrtunately, the grave has been dug :(.

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  8. Mauron says:

    I’ll believe it when I see it… maybe.

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  9. kracen says:

    Someone needs to remind me what chapter the ship sank in ‘cos I cannot remember or possibly repressed the memory of it.

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  10. Reapy_s0ul says:

    on one hand I respect an author who does their own thing and doesn’t comply to what the fans demand of them 24/7 and on the other hand I fucking hate everything and want to die

    HHHHHHHHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

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  11. I wouldn’t call it pessimism (didn’t comment before, I’m just now learning about how the manga plays out), but I can understand where Yuri fans would be upset by the situation. Probably a good call to stop covering; the difference between Yuri/subxtext/”just plain bait” is a little thin sometimes and personally I’d prefer to read about shows that are solidly Yuri on a Yuri site without having to worry about it.

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  12. Ren says:

    I don’t know if this is a good place to be saying this, or if my comment is even wanted, but in my opinion, I think the line between yuri and subtext can be thin, but the line between “blatant yuri and subtext yuri” and “plain bait” is quite distinctive. I think that if the show depicts very strong relationships between women which can be mistaken as romantic in nature, but ends up with a heterosexual endgame or a clear denial of the yuri pairing, then it is plain bait, which Amano’s works and Euphonium would fall under. Personally, I agree with your decision to stop covering Amanchu for that reason, as like some comments above, I prefer to read about solid yuri on a yuri site, even if said yuri is very light and subtle and we may never see official confirmation of a ship, so long as said ship isn’t officially denied. Granted, the Amanchu anime may take a different course from the source material, but I feel that covering such shows is giving publicity to the baity source material, which in my opinion doesn’t help the development of the yuri genre as a whole.

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  13. kitsu260 says:

    Oh, i see all this pessimist come specially from /u/ and places related who also is the place who create the impressive term yuri-bait that I don´t like so that why I don´t use.
    Seriously, other place like Kissmanga and animesuki act far more reasonable

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  14. MarkS00N says:

    Do you plan to cover Wixoss OG?
    Current season is kinda an all-star show where MCs from previous series meet and seems to fight for the fate of their partners, and I am pretty hype for it.

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  15. No offense to you but I wish that, as a loyal knowlegdeable yuri fan, you should do a thorough research on a series first and make a careful consideration it if this will be worth at least putting goggles on. I warned you about Amanchu a few years back. It falls in the same league as Hibike Euphonium: a yuribait league. I have seen comments from various yuri fans that Amano does not respect yuri not lesbianism. That is why she brought Kokoro

    Personally, I would call her a witch (oh wait, I just did) for doing this ungrateful move towards yuri fans by putting a young boy between the cute fan-preferred couple. Then again, it is her work so she has rights to do whatever she wants with it. However, this is just another indication of Japan’s overall attitude towards yuri and its fans. Like that Hibike author basically telling them to flock off by giving the novel an unsurprising het ending. Or >Trigger not wanting Little Witch Academia to be a yuri heaven by putting >boys and >het in the anime.

    Now you know why I lashed out at you and some people for being so hype towards >Uma Musume. As someone who has known the Girls Love genre for 12 years, I do not waste my time on it, Idolmaster, Two Car, and het series with cheap yuri fanservice/spinoffs just to dig for “yuri” scraps. I even dropped Precure and Aikatsu because, in this timeline where there are more yuri(-heavy) anime/manga/series, plus with those two franchises being family-friendly with clear sheer amount of het, they are not worth it. When there is a “yuri-friendly” work that has these yuri vs. het ship wars and all-females vs. # females + self-insert (male) wars within the community, it is best to, unless you are just a fan of it or somebody who wants to give it a try, just avoid it.

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    • I hope you people understand where I am coming from and I am very sorry for what I did back in the first Uma Musume article. I am just not the kind of a yuri fan who goes to pick things up at the sight of two girls just touching each other.

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    • mihomaho says:

      After being yuri fan for 12 how can you still be such a purist lol, I guess I’m like you back than. Still can’t watch idolmaster but uma musume is fine so far.

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    • Red says:

      Just a little aside, Aikatsu has basically no het. They even introduced male idols in Stars but did basically nothing with them. And Friends doesn’t appear to have any potential male love interests at all.

      On the other hand, it also doesn’t have much gay even in terms of just subtext, so I wouldn’t recommend it if that’s all you want, but it’s still a great show with a decent amount of shipping material.

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  16. Umedyn says:

    I definitely understand where you’re coming from, Yuri bait is bad enough (and really pisses me off) but the spoiler fans about it can be even worse. I’ll still watch Amanchu Advanced because I loved the first season, and my hope against hope (they won’t) is they’ll fix the wrongs the manga made, but if they don’t force the point in this season, I’ll still be happy with it, for the most part… maybe… but still, if the anime goes the same way I hear the manga does, then drop it like a hot potato… It really sucks because the first episode showed soooo much promise, it’s like getting a cookie, then being beat over the head with a frying pan.

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    • From what I understand, Amano was not very pleased with her manga being popular among the yuri fans and thinking that it was yuri. So she created a young boy who is in love with one of the main girls. Basically, she gave them two middle fingers. The Hibike author also did the same thing with her novel but that is because KyoAni turned the anime into a yuribait machine. I do not like nor respect these authors for blatantly flocking off fans of an already niche genre, even though they have all the right to do with their works. It makes me wish the studios of their respective anime to give their authors their own two middle fingers and end their anime with a clear definitive yuri route.

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  17. ineedyuri says:

    The Yuri community can have some very think Yuri goggles.
    Not every anime that has girl as the main characters need to be yuri. As sad as that may be.

    I always thought the show was just about friendship.

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  18. Wait Kokoro is a guy? I thought it was a girl. Also even he is a guy and is interested, it doesn´t mean that he is going to be chosen. If the girl is not interested I don´t care if there is a guy, I would still ship the yuri ship, even if is not canon. I would put my yuri googles and ignore whatever the author say. BUT if in any case they confirm the het ship then I would stop watching.

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  19. How can everyone say the mangaka is “yuri-baiting” while at the same time say that she “suddenly realized” ppl construed her manga as yuri then inserted a dude. By definition, if it is yuri-bait, it was planned from the beginning. This situation is quite unique and idt there is a term for it lol. …Anyways personally I’m just gonna wait until the show is over. If a dude is thrown in, I’m just gonna act like a second season to this show nvr came out. Which would really suck honestly, great show. At the same time tho I kind of agree with what Ren sort of pointed out, I’d hate to support that homophobic birch in anyway, even just enjoying a show based on her works.

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    • Have you ever seen Hibike Euphonium? The anime popularized the term “yuri-baiting.” The original source never had any yuri at all but >KyoAni turned the anime into a yuribait machine and the author was not happy with it. The same situation happened with Amanchu. So you have a point that yuribait is planned from the beginning. It is just that these corrupt anime studios are putting yuri into anime based on sources that is not yuri whatsover. There were yuribait anime before Hibike and Amanchu came such as Love Lab and Cross Ange. That tells you about how Japan treats that genre.

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  20. DM Aaron says:

    Maybe I’m putting blinders on, but the two characters seemed to profess their love for one another in episode 12 of the first season and in episode 1 of the second season… Perhaps that’s what you guys mean when you say “yuri bait.” I dunno, it seems like a fun show and the overall tone, art style and relaxing nature of the show is what drew me to the show. Pikari and Tenko’s relationship grew pretty obviously over the show. I’m now hoping that particular rug won’t get yanked…

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  21. jenetic6 says:

    I’m a firm supporter of writers being able to do whatever they want with their stories and I can either enjoy it or not. I can usually find something to like in just about anything I am interested in enough to watch past the first episode. (My tendency to choose shows with at least a little bit of yuri subtext over ones with none isn’t in question though)

    About the only things that really make me unhappy with a series by the end is when a ship gets teased all the way through then destroyed in the last arc or basically anything netorare. That said, if whatever people are losing their minds about is as bad as they make it seem, I’ll just pretend like Advance never happened. Season 1 was perfection, I didn’t even know they were making a second until a couple weeks ago when it first aired, I got my enjoyment out of Amanchu at this point.

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